I recently got an e-mail with general questions on the EMS and I thought it would be best to answer these on the blog, as I'm sure others have had similar ones. If anyone has any other input - please don’t hesitate to add.
As an aside, it has been really exciting to get all the e-mails from people working on their own EMS. While most are being used as business storage servers (practical but a bit boring!), there are a few insane folks doing it for their media server at home, which to me is the best use of all!!!
Now to the questions:
1. Streaming with Server 2008 R2. How is it done? Everything I’ve read tells me to use WHS but there is a drive limit with WHS and I want a 64-bit based system. I know nothing about Server 2008 (R2 or not) so I know I’m going to have to do some reading. Do you have any suggestions? I will be ripping my DVD and Blu-ray collection and need the ability to stream multiple discrete 1080p outputs.
I don’t have a lot of experience with the WHS product – sorry! I briefly looked at it and saw that the only item it offered to ME at least was server side support for iSCSI hosting, and that was easy enough to add to the standard Window Server Line with a 3rd party product.
This is obviously just my opinion, but I’m not a huge fan of the specialized marketing- department-created versions of Windows Server (i.e. Small Business Server, WHS, etc.). They just always seem like an afterthought and I like the flexibility I get with the full versions. Obviously, there are other considerations (licensing costs, extra “features”, etc.), but for me, I really like Server 2008 R2 x64. I also would consider Ubuntu or similar if I didn’t have access to the Microsoft stuff. No matter what though, you definitely want to stick with a 64 Bit OS for the server.
Take a look at the answer to #3 for more details on streaming, etc.
2. Redundancy. Are you just mirroring your drives like a RAID 1 setup? Are you using server quality drives?
Right now I'm using just desktop grade SATA drives. Mostly Western Digital 1TB and 1.5TB units.
I decided a while ago that I wasn't going to go the RAID route, as it was important for me to be able to remove any hard drive and access in another workstation without a lot of fuss.
I've also been bitten more times than I care to remember by RAIDs and while they offer added safety, they also create additional failure points and risks. In the end, I also don't have any data that really matters. If I lose a drive of media, so be it. All my important data I just script and backup to a spare drive instead of RAIDing – that way I also get a bit of an archive as well in case I modify or delete an important file.
For me, the only reason I would RAID with the EMS would be for performance. However, since one drive is capable of maxing out the gigabit network connection, real-world performance would be limited for my type of usage.
3. What type of network backbone are you using to stream to your front ends? I’m thinking that I need 6E or fiber to handle the multiple 1080p feeds. Could a 10Gig controller be installed on the system? Or should I use a board with two Gig controllers and use them in combination? (I really know nothing about this stuff.)
In my case, I’m technically not streaming the content. I am more accurately storing the media files on the EMS and then playing them back via a dedicated Windows 7 Media PC. This Media PC just accesses the media files via a share on the EMS to play back the media on demand.
I’m currently using an ATI 46xx Series Card on the Media PC that supports HDMI output as well. You could go with a higher end card, but this was a good balance for me.
I typically use VLC (http://www.videolan.org/) for the player on the Media PC as it supports the greatest range of codecs /media files with the least amount of fuss.
I have been able to play up to 24 movies of mixed DVD/BR type quality without any issues using a single gigabit network adapter in the server and a gigabit network adapter in the Media PC. In a home environment, I don’t think you’ll see the benefit of using 10Gb or dual 1Gb adapters. Possibly, if you move a lot of data to and from your main workstation while playing media concurrently, having a second 1Gb adapter on the server might came in handy???
As an aside, I also use the HDMI Matrix 4x4 product from Gefen (http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=5307) to distribute my media content in the home to our 4 TVs.
In my setup, I have 3 HD-DVRs from DirecTV and 1 Media PC. All are setup to output to HDMI 1080i or 1080p and are plugged directly into the Gefen 4x4 Matrix, which in turn allows you to view any HDMI source on any of the 4 TVs via HDMI (think a basic switcher device), or view any of the 4 sources on multiple TVs simultaneously as well (i.e. a HDMI Distribution Device).
Because I have my equipment centralized and I want digital end-to-end, I take the HDMI output on the 4x4 Matrix and go to a HDMI Fiber Extender for the “last mile” (http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=7986). These guys are expensive, but they just work. I tried the CAT5e HDMI Extenders and had nothing but problems. They are very sensitive to grounding noise and IMHO just not worth the effort – you’ll pay more (a lot more) for the fiber extensions, but they just work and work well.
4. Future proofing. Would you suggest waiting for a SATA 3.0 server grade motherboard?
I wouldn’t - the only item your Motherboard’s Integrated SATA Controller will be connected to is the boot drive for your server, and there currently just aren’t any single drives that can max out the “old “ SATA limit of 3Gb/sec. You’d need to get a single drive that can move more than ~375MB/sec to see any benefit and they don’t exist (yet!). Although a good Solid State Drive plays around the 200MB/sec mark…
I also think the spec/products are a bit too new at this point. When possible I like to wait for revision #2 of the products before I put it in a server that I just want for the most part to just work.
5. Where can I buy the BackBlaze Custom 4U Server Pod Case?
I ordered my case from:
Protocase Inc.
Phone: 1-866-849-3911 (Toll Free)
Fax: 1-902-567-3336
http://www.protocase.com/
I ended up with possibly a slightly older version of the case (REV7?). They offered to upgrade it after noticing the mistake – something about a new design that had flames instead of the standard fan grill type pattern at the back edge. I looked and it wasn’t a big deal for me.
By the way, these guys were great to work with!
6. Would it make sense to separately RAID 1 the O/S for redundancy? I’m thinking that it’s only important in WHS as it will maintain the integrity of the shares.
I would definitely consider it. Mounting the second drive would be a pain, but definitely possible. I also almost always do a simple Windows Mirror RAID for my boot drives – can’t tell you how many times that setup has saved me a ton of time. You also get better read performance, which might come in handy if you’re doing other stuff with the server.
With that said, I currently don’t have it in my setup, but I might add it. My only worry might be the additional power draw. In a perfect world, maybe 2 SSDs?
7. Would it be insane to consider SSD drives? At least for the O/S?
I’m currently using a single Intel SSD for the boot drive. I just really like the speed of the better units and have gotten spoiled. I also really like the lack of heat production, which is always nice. I personally only use Intel SSDs right now and, when the budget allows, their Extreme Edition in a Strip Array can’t be beat for raw performance in both reading and writing. However, their mainstream version of the drive would be perfect for the EMS and if you wanted a performance boost and extra protection, just do a simple RAID Mirror with two of them.
You could also use some SSDs in the PM Bays as well if you wanted, but just be careful to spread them out as 2 really good SSDs would max out a 5 Port PM Backplane’s Bandwidth which is limited to max throughput of ~375MB/sec.
Wednesday, December 2, 2009
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As always, thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas on this. :)
ReplyDelete375MBs? SATA 3Gbps bandwidth is 300 MB/s.
ReplyDeleteFair enough :) ... I just did a quick calc (3000/8=375). Did a quick lookup and I guess they use 10 bit encoding and not 8 which would make it 3000/10=300). Of course you still have protocol overhead on top of this so I think the effective max throughput is more like 275MB/sec ???
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